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the_siobhan ([personal profile] the_siobhan) wrote2006-08-05 10:56 pm

if I were a rhetorical question, I would look like this

Is it possible for somebody who is pro-life and somebody who is pro-choice to be friends?

Is it simply a matter of difference of opinion? Or is it more than that? Is there an underlying difference in values that makes it impossible to be friends?

What do you think?


What I'm listening to right this second: Stromkern

Re: can I jump in? It's a two-parter!

[identity profile] thebigbad.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
ow here's what I have since found out about abortion:

- A coworker of mine had an abortion. First person I ever knew who had one. She spent some time after that in terrible grief. She would call the father - another coworker - constantly, in the break room, in front of everyone, sobbing into the phone, calling him names, screaming. As for myself, well I have to be honest and say I wanted to see how it would effect my views. We would still talk just like always - not about abortion, of course - and it was still pleasant, we were still nice to each other even though I was conflicted about my views on abortion - well, she probably still was, too. I would talk to her and I would think about how if abortion is the termination of life, was I talking to a killer? She was the same person as she was before. There wasn't anything different. No scarlet letter, no muderous rampages. She grieved, she moved on best she could, found a new man, married him, had his baby.

- When I was 23 my girlfriend, my first real love, and oh I fell for her hard, she was taken into an alley, beaten nearly to death and raped by four guys. Twice. If she had become pregnant because of that, I would have stood by her choice, whichever it would have been. Because I loved her.

- If my wife becomes pregnant with our offspriing I would express my hope that she would keep it. She would anyway. She wants to have a baby. But if she wouldn't, I can say that would be hurt. How she would feel and how it would effect our marriage, our relationship, is too hypothetical and I can not speculate. That's just my view. If anyone feels it's irrelevant, that I'm unenlightened, weak, hypocritical, full of shit (respectfully or otherwise), or ultimately displeased, they wouldn't be the first or last, so no harm done.

Re: can I jump in? It's a two-parter!

[identity profile] thebigbad.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
that should start Now not ow, but because my comments have been such an agonizing experience, it's a humorously appropriate typo. shit, I can't type yet this morning.

Okay, there's a third part

[identity profile] thebigbad.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
because I was talking to my wife just now and she reminded me of this. We've discussed this before, and if we have a baby and it turns out that it would have Down's Syndrome (Colleen is 40 and we must be realistic), or deformed or something, we would terminate it. So I guess I do take a firm stand on one aspect of it after all.

Re: Okay, there's a third part

[identity profile] siani-hedgehog.livejournal.com 2006-08-07 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm planning on paying for private testing for Downs, and having an abortion if my offspring has it when we try for a baby. my cousin has just had a baby with Downs. i really don't want to take the chance if i can possibly avoid it.

Re: can I jump in? It's a two-parter!

[identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com 2006-08-06 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for contributing. Seriously.