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the_siobhan ([personal profile] the_siobhan) wrote2007-09-15 11:00 pm
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forewarned, my drugies

From [livejournal.com profile] okoshun. This list of 25 skills every man should have from PC Magazine. Stuff I can do is bolded, things I may have done once and/or think I know how to do but have not done is italicized. Things I'd like to learn how to do, but have not yet had a chance to is in red.

1. Patch a radiator hose
2. Protect your computer
3. Rescue a boater who has capsized
4. Frame a wall[1]
5. Retouch digital photos[2]
6. Back up a trailer[3]
7. Build a campfire
8. Fix a dead outlet
9. Navigate with a map and compass
10. Use a torque wrench
11. Sharpen a knife
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid
15. Get a car unstuck
16. Back up data
17. Paint a room
18. Mix concrete
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle[4]
20. Change oil and filter
21. Hook up an HDTV
22. Bleed brakes
23. Paddle a canoe
24. Fix a bike flat
25. Extend your wireless network

[1]I suspect I will be learning this one sooner rather than later.
[2]Yes I know it's simple. No I don't expect to get around to it any time soon.
[3]To be fair, it's been a while.
[4]I've actually done this once, but it was a while ago.

This particular list reminded me of Robert Heinlein's list of things that every human being should be able to do. So I tried to apply the same rules to it.

1. change a diaper
2. plan an invasion
3. butcher a hog
4. conn a ship[5]
5. design a building
6. write a sonnet[6]
7. balance accounts
8. build a wall
9. set a bone
10. comfort the dying
11. take orders
12. give orders
13. cooperate
14. act alone
15. solve equations
16. analyze a new problem
17. pitch manure
18. program a computer
19. cook a tasty meal
21. fight efficiently
22. die gallantly[7]

[5]What does "conn" mean?
[6]This fits into the category of "been a while"
[7]Like anybody can know until it happens

I find the evolution pretty interesting. I'm curious to see how the list looks in another 20 years. (splice a gene. build a generator...)

[identity profile] eciklb.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Should you come visit me at any point, I'd be happy to teach #5 on the first list.

[identity profile] hobbitbabe.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
I believe conn means navigate.

[identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah.

Well I can't do that either. :-)

[identity profile] excess-and-oohs.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
of what are we to be forewarned?

[identity profile] excess-and-oohs.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
too late!

1. Patch a radiator hose
2. Protect your computer
3. Rescue a boater who has capsized
4. Frame a wall
5. Retouch digital photos
6. Back up a trailer
7. Build a campfire
8. Fix a dead outlet
9. Navigate with a map and compass
10. Use a torque wrench
11. Sharpen a knife
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid
15. Get a car unstuck
16. Back up data
17. Paint a room
18. Mix concrete*
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle*
20. Change oil and filter
21. Hook up an HDTV
22. Bleed brakes
23. Paddle a canoe
24. Fix a bike flat
25. Extend your wireless network

Heilein:
1. change a diaper
2. plan an invasion
3. butcher a hog
4. conn a ship
5. design a building
6. write a sonnet
7. balance accounts
8. build a wall
9. set a bone
10. comfort the dying
11. take orders
12. give orders
13. cooperate
14. act alone
15. solve equations
16. analyze a new problem
17. pitch manure
18. program a computer
19. cook a tasty meal
21. fight efficiently
22. die gallantly

[identity profile] mraustin.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
1. Patch a radiator hose
2. Protect your computer
3. Rescue a boater who as capsized
4. Frame a wall
5. Retouch digital photos
6. Back up a trailer
7. Build a campfire
8. Fix a dead outlet
9. Navigate with a map and compass
10. Use a torque wrench
11. Sharpen a knife
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid
15. Get a car unstuck
16. Back up data
17. Paint a room
18. Mix concrete

19. Clean a bolt-action rifle
20. Change oil and filter
21. Hook up an HDTV
22. Bleed brakes
23. Paddle a canoe
24. Fix a bike flat
25. Extend your wireless network


This list is weird. It's almost an ad for being a Boy Scout.

[identity profile] unagothae.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
I can do most of the things on Heinlein's list. I know how to kill and butcher a hog, but I'm not sure I actually could, but it isn't like I have to.

As for the things a man should know how to do...give me a break. Most of those are skills you only need if you are an outdoor enthusiast. I know how to build a fire and sharpen a knife, but when do I ever need to?

I can do the things that are useful on a mundane level like retouching digital photos, but how often in your life do you come across a dead outlet unless you are a builder or live in a house with ancient wiring? If the latter, get someone to replace your wiring before the place burns down, duh.

The men's list is pissing contest stuff (unless you are an outdoor enthusiast, in which case, why isn't the list longer?). Heinlein's list is actually useful.

[identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
My reaction was the opposite. I see a lot of stuff on Heinlein's list as very subjective. I may think I'm good at following and giving orders, other people may think differently.

A fire is useful if you are ever lost. At one time, a person who became lost outside of a city was mostly likely to die of hunger. Nowadays the majority of deaths are due to exposure.

Things like knives and outlets strike me as basic maintenance that everybody should be able to do. You should know how to sharpen your knives periodically if you cook for yourself, otherwise you will throwing away perfectly good knives for no reason. (And good knives aren't cheap.)

Likewise, calling in a professional every time you need something minor done like re-connecting a loose outlet is going to mean throwing away money for no good reason. I count those as basic life skills.

Some of the car stuff, otoh is only useful if you drive. I find it a very American assumption that everybody needs skills that are specific to cars. And I may die happily without ever having to know how to hook up an HDTV that I'll never own.
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[identity profile] elusis.livejournal.com 2007-09-17 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I know how to sharpen a knife. Take my knives down to the knife-sharpener man who's at the farmer's market every weekend, and say "can you please sharpen this knife?"

[identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com 2007-09-17 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was a kid there used to be guys who would walk around with a sharpening wheel mounted on a little buggy. We got our knives sharpened whenever he was in the neighbourhood.

I haven't seen one of those in years.
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[identity profile] elusis.livejournal.com 2007-09-17 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
We had one of those guys too!

This one has a whole VAN.

[identity profile] dark-phoenix54.livejournal.com 2007-09-16 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Patch a radiator hose
2. Protect your computer
3. Rescue a boater who as capsized
4. Frame a wall
5. Retouch digital photos
6. Back up a trailer[3]
7. Build a campfire
8. Fix a dead outlet
9. Navigate with a map and compass
10. Use a torque wrench

11. Sharpen a knife
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid
15. Get a car unstuck
16. Back up data
17. Paint a room
18. Mix concrete
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle
20. Change oil and filter

21. Hook up an HDTV
22. Bleed brakes
23. Paddle a canoe
24. Fix a bike flat

25. Extend your wireless network

Heilein:
1. change a diaper
2. plan an invasion
3. butcher a hog (I've seen it done and want no part of it.)
4. conn a ship5. design a building
6. write a sonnet (if it doesn't have 'natucket' in it, I can't write it)
7. balance accounts
8. build a wall

9. set a bone
10. comfort the dying
11. take orders
12. give orders
13. cooperate
14. act alone

15. solve equations
16. analyze a new problem
17. pitch manure
18. program a computer
19. cook a tasty meal
21. fight efficiently

22. die gallantly (I imagine I'll go crying and screaming all the way)