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You know, every time [livejournal.com profile] the_axel plays the Evil Dead soundtrack, I find myself wondering why it is that whenever there is a slut character in a play/book/movie, she is always portrayed as dumb.

Why can't it ever be a smart woman who just happens to have a somewhat greedy taste for the pleasures carnal? Why is the default assumption that those two personality traits must always be diametrically opposed?

Is it just because the writers who pump this shit out have never met any?


Siobhan "I was a turbo trollop and still managed to graduate" NiLoughlin

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Date: 2008-05-17 11:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] boxofdelights
Stockard Channing's character in Grease?

bibfh

Date: 2008-05-18 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] betonica.livejournal.com
I'd love to hear about more smart slut characters; can't think of any offhand, myself.

I've frequently been annoyed that blondes are always (fsvo always) portrayed as dumb, and back around 1997 created the Blonde Ice Bitch From Hell. She was supposed to be one of those very smart, very self-centered nasty blondes that were in those 40's movies and hard-boiled detective novels. She had a lot of fun blowing away the Terminally Stupid with her e-derringer, elsenet, but otherwise was rather two-dimensional. I was so sure she was a strong archetype, but when I went looking for her in movies from then, I couldn't find her. Hm. Puzzling.

I puzzled bunches of other people, too, because I'm not, in fact, blonde. But anyway.

Good luck on the search for brilliant sluts. Would success result, perhaps, in a movie-fest?

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Date: 2008-05-18 01:30 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I like that term: Trollop. I like "Slattern" better.

On the one hand, being treated like the dirt at the bottom of someone's shoe does suck. However, when they underestimate you, they will be too consumed by their sense of superiority to see the slut behind them about to get 'em in the ass.


Jenn

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Date: 2008-05-18 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marchenland.livejournal.com
The chick in the Kushiel books is very smart (unrealistically so, imo) and very slutty, ahem, I mean is a libertine.

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Date: 2008-05-18 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metalana.livejournal.com
well, how about writing your own stories with slutty smart heroines?

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Date: 2008-05-18 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eciklb.livejournal.com
IME, IRL women are often more successfully slutty when they act dumb (the opposite approach works in certain social circles but not in most). Perhaps people are just unreflective enough to assume that slutty women *are* dumb?

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Date: 2008-05-18 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalmn.livejournal.com
drew barrymore's character in charlie's angels. i liked her.

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Date: 2008-05-18 05:17 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aquaeri.livejournal.com
I blame the patriarchy.

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Date: 2008-05-18 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] northbard.livejournal.com
yah...I had a hard time ignoring that from the play. i mean, the misogyny was ther ein the movie, so it makes sense to bring it into the play but...the whole "stupid bitch" thing made me physically twist during the play.

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Date: 2008-05-18 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raindrops.livejournal.com
Interesting point. We have the man-eating shark-toothed-vagina razor sharp but not in it for the pleasure - just the power trip - type... which does indeed say a lot more about the writers than the reality. (ie, there are smart sluts portrayed, but always with ulterior and usually quite sinister motives).

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Date: 2008-05-18 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panic-girl.livejournal.com
Siobhan "I was a turbo trollop and still managed to graduate" NiLoughlin

TESTIFY!

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Date: 2008-05-18 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetfuckall.livejournal.com
Gwyneth Paltrow's character in The Royal Tenenbaums was a Smart Slut :D

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Date: 2008-05-19 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dali-muse.livejournal.com
Annette Benning in "The Grifters".

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