from housework to headwork
Jun. 3rd, 2004 10:44 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I've been thinking a lot lately about issues of body image and such. Mostly because I don't think I know anybody who is completely content with their own body.
So I put the question to you. Do you like your body? What things do you like about it? What would you change about it if you could?
I'm still trying to decide how I would answer those questions...
So I put the question to you. Do you like your body? What things do you like about it? What would you change about it if you could?
I'm still trying to decide how I would answer those questions...
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Date: 2004-06-03 08:04 pm (UTC)I have many many body issues and insecurities. But I think I have nice legs. I do alot of walking, so they're rather strong. And a good butt, tho' I keep that hidden most of the time with long shirts, baggy pants and stuff. One has to be close to me to get to see the booty.
I'd like to change a number of things, but to be honest I'm vaguely scared that if I did, I might find that I'm still just as insecure, still dislike aspects of myself just as much. It sounds silly, but I think that fear really holds me back alot from trying to change my appearance. The idea that a physical manifestation is easier to dislike than a character flaw or psychological issue that were to become more apparent if I changed my appearance.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 08:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 08:55 pm (UTC)Do you like your body?
Oh geez. Would it sound really odd to say that I don't know? I have my good days, when it just feels right to be living in my own skin. Days when I feel strong and my muscles flow smoothly under my skin, and I look in the mirror and think "Hell yeah!"
And then there are the days where everything bags and bulges, and I feel pasty, misshappen and weak.
I like parts of my body, but I have trouble really liking and feeling comfortable with my physical self most of the time.
What things do you like about it?
After years of feeling inadequate because I'm short, skinny and flat-chested, I've learned to appreciate my small frame. Actually, that's one of the things that drew me to the goth scene. Finally, a place where being pale and waifish was a good thing!
I like the subtle, lean muscles that yoga and ballet have given me. I like the fact that I'm supple and flexible.
What would you change about it if you could?
I'd make it more in tune with the rest of me, if I could. It seems like my mind and my body are often at odds, and I'm getting sick of trying to make peace between the two. I feel betrayed by my own body a lot of the time.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 01:54 am (UTC)And then there are the days where everything bags and bulges, and I feel pasty, misshappen and weak.
amen, sister.
Being down with pnumonia for as long as I was really did a fucking number on my body *&* my head. As mentioned previously, I don't like any of the CX pics of me bc I look puffy & tired. Or I think so, anyway.
I am, however, having more "hell yeah" days lately, despite not having bounced back completely.
Stuff I like - I am cute. Funny looking, but cute. I am pretty strong. I have good endurance. I am fairly flexible. I carry my weight pretty well. My ass is amazing.
Stuff I don't like - Various weird illnesses. The toll gravity is taking on my tits. Every pound I am over 180 lbs.
So generally, yes. I like my body most of the time. We have our disagreements, but we do okay.
I do have to say that every time I hear or read someone who I think is smoking hot insult herself, I get a little upset. Sometimes I am upset bc I am thinking "are ya blind, wo/man? you are some hot stuff! quit putting yourself down!" Other times I am thinking " god, if s/he thinks s/he's ugly/fat/whatever, s/he must think I am a circus freak." And then I remember that ppl are generally warped when it comes to body image & go admire my ass in boy-cut underwear.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 05:39 am (UTC)Best. Idea. Ever.
Boy cuts are a godsend.
As for looking puffy and tired aty CX, I didn't see it. Astrid and I were going over pictures I took (yes, I know i need to post that shit) but we were talking about how fantastic you looked and how sweet your boy is and how everything was just wonderful for you lately, so hearing you say that you were feeling less that spectacular about how you looked is kinda shocking. I thought you were glowing the whole damn time and it always made me feel better to have you around that weekend.
Hell, bitches need to take a road trip to NYC with the quickness.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 10:29 pm (UTC)& awww, that's sweet of you to say. thank you. & I am glad to have been a positive influence on your weekend. If one can say that a screaming drunk ninja bitch can be a good inflence on anything. ;P
I felt okay about the way I looked at the time, but all the pics I've seen make me think I look puffy & tired. I think I look like I was happy & having a good time, but I think I also looked like someone who was in DESPERATE need of that good time. Which, you know, is true. Been a rough year. Things have really turned around, but it's been a rough year. if you have any good pics of me & my smokin' hot boyfriend, please to let me know. raaaar.
also, HOT SHIT, bitches totally need to take a road trip to NYC.
We're working out some crazy details in my house, so I am not sure when the Youth Hostle for Hostile Youth will be in bidness, but I am always available as native guide.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-07 06:45 pm (UTC)No shit.
The main reason I did it as a question. I'm having a lot of trouble teasing out my own feelings about it.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-07 07:13 pm (UTC)I'm still thinking about these questions. I feel very antagonistic towards my body a lot of the time, as if I want to punish it for not being "perfect" and for not responding how I want it to, and then I catch myself and realize how fucking unhealthy that is, and then I want to pamper myself physically. Kind of atoning for having been so angry at myself earlier.
I'm still working through a lot of stuff.
Yoga helps, and so does ballet, in that they give me opportunities to be surprised and impressed by what my body can do.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 08:56 pm (UTC)But I'm interested in why knowing other people's body images would help you reflect on yours? That would be worth a few drinks to find out...
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-07 06:49 pm (UTC)body image language
Date: 2004-06-07 07:22 pm (UTC)You could try telling stories about parts of your body. (I tried this, starting with the toes. I feel pretty good about those, but things got more negative as I went upward. I gave up at the knees.)
Might be good to list all the positive things people have told you about your body or its parts.
In my experience, the unspeakable aspects of the body are the most important. Can you express yourself in media other than words?
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 09:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 10:03 pm (UTC)I like being strong and reasonably flexible. I like my long and relatively thin hands. I have individually good facial features, though I'm still pretty skeptical on the face as a package (much less than I used to be, though).
I dislike that my bones will never let me fit within society's current definition of "thin," and the genetic predisposition to carrying some extra weight makes things that much worse, and makes getting even to "thin for me" that much harder. I'm grateful that my barrel chest makes my smaller bust look bigger, but it's generally problematic when trying to fit clothes or fit in small spaces. I used to have good legs, but the extra weight hasn't done flattering things, and I'm not sure if it's recoverable.
All that said, I don't know that there's anything I'd actually change past losing some weight (in process again) and maybe straightening my teeth (if finances present). I already had the LASIK (Best. Thing. Ever.), and that was the biggest unhappiness.
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Date: 2004-06-03 10:26 pm (UTC)not particularly. it's, well, human. :) that is the core of the problem.
What things do you like about it?
that, despite being human, it works ok. not great, but ok. it gets me around enough so i can enjoy parts of the planet. i like my hands, they're very handy (pun not particularly intended). opposing thumbs rule. my hair feels nice; i wish i had fur like it all over.
What would you change about it if you could?
make it so it works, feels, and looks like the body in my mind. oh, more realistically, *heh*? get eye surgery to correct my vision (but i am scared shitless of mucking around with my eyes since they do work, if not well). fix my brain chemistry so the depression goes away -- maybe they'll actually figure out a way to do that within my lifetime. fix my beginning RSI because it's making my hands less handy. extend my lifespan. woops; back to unrealistic. :)
i mostly don't worry much about body image. the usual messages society sends roll off my back pretty well -- i think because i already had my own image in mind long before i listened to what society was yapping about, and i am just not unhappy per se that my body doesn't match society's beauty standard, because that is really small potatoes compared to not matching the body i really would like.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 10:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 10:37 pm (UTC)In general, yes. I've been dealt a fairly good hand there.
What things do you like about it?
It's strong and large. There isn't much it can't do and it can withstand a crapload of punishment.
What would you change about it if you could?
I wouldn't mind losing a couple more pounds, as I've become a little more... fleshy. Not too many, but enough to get back to the pre-love handle days. And that'll just take me getting off my ass a bit more.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 10:50 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 11:27 pm (UTC)The only thing I would change about my body is the unhealthy amount of excess weight I'm carrying simply because I'm only carrying it because of emotional issues. It's my great big emotional baggage in physical form. It's a real mark of having my shit sorted out when that baggage gets smaller. It's a real mark of being buried in shit when it gets bigger (as it has recently).
People are generally amazed to find out how much I like myself because it's all too clear how convinced I am that most of them see me through the eyes of the children that taunted me as a child and the men that hurt me throughout my life.
I love my body. I'm just not convinced that anybody else does.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 11:32 pm (UTC)The one thing that I would change, if I had the money, are my teeth. They're a complete ruin, so much so that they're the reason I don't smile (nothing to do with me being a goth!).
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-03 11:33 pm (UTC)It's one of those things that if given too much attention will end up making one very unhappy.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 12:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 01:55 am (UTC)--
Your ever lovin' groovy vicar
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 02:25 am (UTC)2) If I have to tell you you don`t pay attention
3) it`s location relative to Alyson Hannigan
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-07 06:51 pm (UTC)3) You and me both, pal.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 03:16 am (UTC)If I could change anything than I want a propper working right knee and no body hair.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 03:21 am (UTC)2. It's fairly sturdy and resiliant, and I do have nice legs. Plus everything is more or less in proportion. I do have an hourglass figure, it's just a *large* hourglass. And the glassblower left some ripples in the front. Yeah. Anyway.
3. I would skim off the excess fat, because that is what is screwing up everything else. I need some, because I would look freakish at less than, say, 160, but I don't need quite this much.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 03:50 am (UTC)Doesn't mean I still don't wish I had a flatter tummy but like mog warbeast mentioned, I love food and exercise is hard. :) I could have those rock hard abs but it would require giving up too much of what I consider to be basic joys and pleasure in life. If I'm not prepared to become a veggie-nibbling-gym-bunny I guess I have no choice but to accept that this is as good as it gets for me, and overall it's not that bad. And I guess that was the clincher for me...I could look That Way, but I choose not to. If it's my choice, I better damned well get comfy with it otherwise I'm just making myself miserable for no good reason. :p
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 03:53 am (UTC)It depends upon what day you talk to me - sometimes I do, sometimes I wish I could change it just a bit. I'm currently going through a fat (but not ugly) stage, but mostly because these days I can feel my largess (especially when I'm crammed onto a teeny tiny regional jet with someone sitting beside me - Oy! - I feel bad for them) and with the summer approaching more skin will be exposed for all to see (and judge).
What things do you like about it?
My legs are pretty strong and I have nice ankles for a fat girl. :)
What would you change about it if you could?
I'd lose around 95 lbs. I'd still be considered overweight by BMI standards, but I think I'd feel much better about my size, especially when flying.
I'd improve my cardiovascular fitness - it's quite poor these days and I need to do some strength training for my arms and shoulders.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 05:30 am (UTC)I'm all kinds of backwards!... :) Shouldn't I be under the assumption that I'm fat and horrible?
As for changes theres two things.. I want to tone up and I want new feet. Muscles are easy enough to develop and now that it's nice out I'm looking forward to walks and bike rides and excersize to get the flabby flappys under wraps. As for my feets, I've hated them forever and I can hardly find shoes and it becomes this big ordel where i go crazy trying to find something that doesn't look hideous and still fits and it's damn near impossble so all my shoes end up looking like shit but I can't bear to throw them away because it's impossible to find more.
Sometimes I fantasize about sliding my foot into a 9m, and my hips into a size 12 and I think it's hilarious that these expectations of myself are so down to earth yet still seem kinda flighty...
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 05:46 am (UTC)I like my face (my eyes, my eyebrows, my cheekbones). I like my collar bones. I like my flat tummy and my long legs. I even like the fact that the toes on one foot don't quite match the toes on the other foot.
There are still things I'd probably change if I could do it easily though. I'd like another inch or two; 5' 7" is just ducky, but being able to see on top of things and reach things is awfully nice. I'd probably shave just a bit off the thighs, so they'd match my (very narrow) shoulders a little better; I'm not planning on bearing children. Mostly, I'd like to be physicaly stronger. I suppose there are things I could do (and probably should) about that.
But really, I can't complain.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 06:48 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 07:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 09:12 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 09:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 09:31 am (UTC)that freedom for real.
...
Plus, I could drop nickels like raining destruction.
(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 07:30 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2004-06-04 08:37 am (UTC)