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We wish you a merry Mithramas,
We wish you a merry Mithramas,
We wish you a merry Mithramas,
And a day of good cheer.[1]





[1] 'Cause everybody knows New Year is November 1

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Date: 2003-12-24 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazrus-armagedn.livejournal.com
Well, no actually ... only us celts know that

And even we got it wrong ... Let's face it ... the new year really begins on the morning after the winter solstice, when the days start getting longer again

Re: [1]

Date: 2003-12-24 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verminefasciste.livejournal.com
If we humans actually have to implement something such as "time", I think that the new year is whenever we say it is. It is our invention, after all. :>

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Date: 2003-12-24 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazrus-armagedn.livejournal.com
Well ... I suppose it dependss on whether or not one believes in the sui generis existance of phenomena such as time (a la Einstein's Space-Time Continuum) ... in which case there will be an absolute start to the New Year which exists independantly of any observer

Personally, I reckon the new year should, logically, be considered to start after the solstice ... but, on the other hand, having it a week later means that we get more holiday time and an excuse for two parties in a week ... so I'm all in favour of the current system

Re: [1]

Date: 2003-12-24 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verminefasciste.livejournal.com
:)

I've given up on belief. I stick to ideas anymore.

Re: [1]

Date: 2003-12-24 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-helygen254.livejournal.com
Personally, I reckon the new year should, logically, be considered to start after the solstice

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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Date: 2003-12-24 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com
Well ... I suppose it dependss on whether or not one believes in the sui generis existance of phenomena such as time (a la Einstein's Space-Time Continuum) ... in which case there will be an absolute start to the New Year which exists independantly of any observer

You could certainly argue that time exists seperate from humans. (And look! You just did!) But the ways of measureing the passage of time are certainly a human construct.

Personally, I reckon the new year should, logically, be considered to start after the solstice ...

Since time measurement is based on whatever we want it to be, it depends on what you consider an appropriate event to designate as the ending/starting point. It can be a completely arbitrary date if we want it to be.

If the solar cycle is the most important thing in your calender, then the solstice is a good one. But then, I think starting the year after the day when dead people get up and walk around isn't a bad system either.


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Date: 2003-12-28 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazrus-armagedn.livejournal.com
Well, it's not that the solar cycle is the most important thing in my calender so much as it makes logical sense to me to consider the new year to start on the day when the nights start getting shorter and the days longer

I guess it could be argued that it would make just as much sense the other way around ... since the last day before the nights start getting longer and the days shorter feels like an end to the year ... but I'm happy enough as it is in the summer, whereas in the winter months I need a reason to celebrate[1] and feel cheerful about things ... so it makes sense psychosocially

[1] Alright, I never need a reason to celebrate ... the least excuse will do [2], but you get the idea

[2] Like it's my (or your) unbirthday, for instance

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Date: 2003-12-24 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panic-girl.livejournal.com
I'll be the odd one out here. I celebrate my New Year's on the Spring Equinox. Although, being a solstice baby, I do enjoy the thought of that being a holiday. :)

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