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I got up at stupid o'clock in the morning to post about Grey Tuesday in [livejournal.com profile] ld50_inc.

Read about it. Check out the album. It's actually pretty good.

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Date: 2004-02-24 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greylock.livejournal.com
I haven't heard the Grey Album, and am not likely to since I happen to think the best thing that could happen to Jay Z would be something involving a daisycutter, gaffa tape and a militray target.

However, I have a few problems with the situation behind Grey Tuesday:
While "Jay-Z's record label, Roc-A-Fella, released an a capella version of his Black Album specifically to encourage remixes like this one" the Beatles/EI did not.

Futhermore, wholesale sampling of an album is not, IMO, akin to small-scale sampling in songs.

The "honouring" aspect of the sampling is a matter of taste. I happen to think mixing the Beatles and a two-bob wanker like Jay Z is dishonouring the Beatles work. Sir Paul and Ringo may chose to disagree with me.

Furthermore, why should DJ Danger Mouse make any money off the work of others?

Which is why I don't mind the idea of making it freely available, but to charge is disagreeable.


*shrug*
Just a thought.

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Date: 2004-02-24 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazrus-armagedn.livejournal.com
I haven't heard the Grey Album

That much is obvious ... otherwise you wouldn't be in a position to make entirely uninformed comments like wholesale sampling of an album ... [blah, blah, blah]

and am not likely to

Then you don't have an opinion, do you? ... You're just opinionated


I may be being harsh, but if you aren't in a position to make an informed judgement not due to circumstance, but by choice, then you're simply prejudiced ... no more no less

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Date: 2004-02-29 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-siobhan.livejournal.com
While "Jay-Z's record label, Roc-A-Fella, released an a capella version of his Black Album specifically to encourage remixes like this one" the Beatles/EI did not.


Is that relevant, given that the genre didn't even exist yet?

I mean, Mozart didn't write music for electric guitars, either.

The "honouring" aspect of the sampling is a matter of taste. I happen to think mixing the Beatles and a two-bob wanker like Jay Z is dishonouring the Beatles work. Sir Paul and Ringo may chose to disagree with me.

I'm not a big fan of the Beetles and I never heard of Jay, but I can't think it's any less respectful than using the music to sell cars.

I think it's too bad you didn't take the chance to listen to it -- it was definitely more than just a pasting wholesale of lyrics over music. IMO, DJ Dangermouse created a whole new work, something with artistic merit that is wholely seperate from that of his sources.

And as for making money, I doubt he would have done much more than break even. The Grey Album only pressed something like 3000 copies - enough for some collectors and fans and not much more. Somebody on my friends list suggested that the whole thing might have been a publicity stunt on the part of EMI to raise sales of the White Album. Wouldn't shock me if that were true.


Thanx!

Date: 2004-02-24 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazrus-armagedn.livejournal.com
You got a shout-out on my LJ :)

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